tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7415178.post7845510969581206977..comments2023-10-23T00:04:35.356-04:00Comments on The Vault of Buncheness: MY JOURNEY THROUGH THE NEW BATTLESTAR GALACTICABunche (pop culture ronin)http://www.blogger.com/profile/11831085937894725459noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7415178.post-31233400219208280632014-10-04T18:09:52.976-04:002014-10-04T18:09:52.976-04:00I finally did watch it through to the end. I calle...I finally did watch it through to the end. I called it less than halfway through the run and was bored out of my mind waiting to get to it. That said, I'm definitely in the minority when it comes to my opinion on this series.Bunche (pop culture ronin)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11831085937894725459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7415178.post-87520045620902886942014-10-04T14:43:01.723-04:002014-10-04T14:43:01.723-04:00Sorry you didn't enjoy it, but I love this sho...Sorry you didn't enjoy it, but I love this show and have watched it twice. I think it was wonderful and actually thought the ending perfect. <br /><br />One of the things I enjoyed about the show was the flawed/conflicted characters and heroes that were hard to like. I thought it was a challenging approach, really. Felt more real somehow, and the music score was a revelation throughout, truly complex development of themes and motifs. <br /><br />That said, I can understand its not a show for everyone. But do watch it to the end.ghostof82noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7415178.post-19819298524628393412013-10-05T02:06:29.893-04:002013-10-05T02:06:29.893-04:00This series is pathetic, not just one or two, ever...This series is pathetic, not just one or two, every single character of this show pisses me off. Madhavnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7415178.post-20862924114624630532011-02-28T23:58:02.511-05:002011-02-28T23:58:02.511-05:00Dude.
Stop.
DO NOT GO ANY FURTHER.
It will o...Dude. <br /><br />Stop. <br /><br />DO NOT GO ANY FURTHER. <br /><br />It will only cause more pain. If you think your take on the show's women is dead on NOW...Dan Coylenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7415178.post-53124458461580106622011-02-28T20:18:38.001-05:002011-02-28T20:18:38.001-05:00Thank you! I completely lost patience with BSG and...Thank you! I completely lost patience with BSG and felt insulted by the pandering they did with that character. So many good sci fi shows tank when the writers feel the need to make the show draw in a female audience. I HATED Kara. The show hit bottom in the episode where all the cylons start singing "All Along the Watchtower". Caprica was great, but that sadly was cancelled.<br /><br />MelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7415178.post-85668231117694556402011-02-28T15:46:30.931-05:002011-02-28T15:46:30.931-05:00I just loved watching the flashbacks of Adama (EJO...I just loved watching the flashbacks of Adama (EJO) 'cause with that cheesy mustache...he looks just like my dad - had to laugh at those scenes!Joe Rosasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7415178.post-27292136116011198392011-02-28T10:47:04.648-05:002011-02-28T10:47:04.648-05:00The president was great, but there wasn't enou...The president was great, but there wasn't enough of her for me. I found S'buck really grating and I love strong female characters. Then again, I did fall asleep during the pilot...twice. Steve, I admire your endurance. I reposted your link on fb. I think I have about 300 "friends" who are not familiar with your work.--StephanieSonja Kodiak Wilderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13949175437233425540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7415178.post-76964088258844249122011-02-28T10:12:36.430-05:002011-02-28T10:12:36.430-05:00P.S.: Props to Hassan for the mention of Kira from...P.S.: Props to Hassan for the mention of Kira from DS9!Da Natorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12192516325402230720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7415178.post-11017948647463524902011-02-28T10:11:20.667-05:002011-02-28T10:11:20.667-05:00Thanks for the dedication, Bunche. Altogether and...Thanks for the dedication, Bunche. Altogether and awesome review, teasing out so much of what made the show frustrating and the Starbuck character despicable. Incidentally, Marci forced me to watch after the first two seasons.<br /><br />BTW, I forgot to mention: it's pathetic that the writers included NO GAY OR BISEXUAL characters. Apparently, somewhere in the future, out in space, we have been exterminated. (And I know that, after much outcry, they made a lame conciliatory attempt by writing a bi subplot for Gaeta, but it was on their webisodes, which one had to actively seek out, was lacking in any warmth or romance, and was during a time of partcularly troubling behaviour by that characer.) Meanwhile, everyone else is free to cheat on their spouses and fuck machines all they like. But no homos! Yay!<br /><br />Any women over 18 years of age, *particularly* queer gals, who thought Starbuck was awesome are revealing either profound ignorance (partially blamed on our "culture" or not,) or undiagnosed brain damage.Da Natorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12192516325402230720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7415178.post-13184758208907889842011-02-27T21:25:59.606-05:002011-02-27T21:25:59.606-05:00I often called BSG "West Wing in space,"...I often called BSG "West Wing in space," and I was actually pretty by the insistence it was science fiction. <br /><br />Laura Roslin and Edward James Olmos were definitely my favorites.<br /><br />Starbuck is as frustrating as you say, but I sure love cosplaying as her.Red Staplerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12874945256617536899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7415178.post-84047765798224542982011-02-27T19:06:37.987-05:002011-02-27T19:06:37.987-05:00Couldn't agree more about Starbuck and fast fo...Couldn't agree more about Starbuck and fast forwarding ... that she was such a crucial character in the end pissed me off no end. I enjoyed BSG, quite a lot, I was a hold out as well. But most of the things you point out here are just about what I came to feel. After the end of season 2 and the start of 3--ready to throw the remote at the screen at times. I was pretty much done with it all. I watched the end mostly because the husband did and it was on anyway, so I'd half pay attention. In the end, I think it was an admirable try, had some terrific ideas, but only managed to shine on occasion and mostly just achieved good entertainment.duluoz catshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10761421425725729801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7415178.post-39673223353576413782011-02-27T17:53:43.200-05:002011-02-27T17:53:43.200-05:00This was a brutal read! Ginny and I loved the sho...This was a brutal read! Ginny and I loved the show from start to finish.Glenn Greenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13080935309485100122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7415178.post-89391559600946582242011-02-27T14:12:56.055-05:002011-02-27T14:12:56.055-05:00Well, I appreciate the partial dedication. I thoug...Well, I appreciate the partial dedication. I thought when I let a fact or two slip that we’d gotten off to the wrong start. Again I apologize that my enthusiastic vehemence against the show, and probably more apt, the undeserved hype behind the show, got me carried away enough to be careless with my revelations. In truth, unlike your friend, if you’d called me and said, “Hassan, just tell me what the hell happens at the end.” I would have refused and said you gotta go through with it and see it out so you could get the full effect. So I don’t really know what I was thinking! That said, penance made, I agree with your overall assessment of the show. Yes I did find it entertaining, I was not bored, but that is mostly because even my most rudimentary storytelling attributes were on fire just seeing the first mini-series! I knew I was in serious trouble the moment overtly sexy Tricia Helfer (also a wonderful actress and nice the four times I had occasion to meet her. Very aware of her fortunes in the world and rendered gracious because of it) suggestively kissed the colonial official unnecessarily just before they were nuked in the show's opening, and then later the crude depiction of curious indifference when she snapped a baby's neck in her stroller. I realized we were not dealing with writers gifted with any sense of subtlety, and I.E. we were not going to effectively be dabbling in any irony. I'd have believed a good grab at irony would be almost essential in a commentary piece on the annihilation of human civilization. But hey, that's just me. It's like, starting with seven of nine, producers of modern day sci fi seemingly realized they’d been teasing the wrong organ of their nerd constituency. Why be intellectual, why introduce thought provoking themes when all this while we could have just been putting all of our female characters in spandex and claim the same ratings. Yes, sex in space is indeed interesting, titillating and all of those things, but the oddly encouraging reality is that sci fi fans are way ahead of the curve when it comes to empowered female characters. Even princess Leia, a hundred years back, wowed 70’s American audiences with her caricature uprightedness and fiery personality. She was also the leader of a revolutionary movement to liberate a galaxy from tyranny. Heady stuff coming up off Anne Francis from a decade earlier. Even though Leia was a two dimensional character, as were all the star wars characters, my point is that strong women was a bridge long ago crossed by sci fi fans. Your assessment of Starbuck being an unnecessarily over-compensatory feminist/ male adolescent fantasy is right on the money! I agree with your affirmations about Xena and Gabrielle, as well. Personally my favorite female character in sci fi, and in that the best written, was Major Kira from DS9. There was a woman in charge, effortlessly asserting her authority over a crew of strong male characters, and though initially sorta butched out by virtue of hair style, managed to display very soft, emotional attributes. She never had a shortage of male relations (averaging one per season) she had strong female relations (I.E. both Daxs, and various other ex-bajoran terrorist palls) she was devoutly, spiritually religious and a capable warrior. No one ever gives credit to this accomplishment, which is considerable considering some of the crimes that star trek committed on feminism. I agree with president Rosaline being a more assertive, better rounded character. I also think that it is the producer’s lack of enlightenment that maybe felt that Starbuck was necessary to offset the president, being a further along middle aged woman. They couldn’t possibly allow her to be the main female lead in their show, because they have to get the geeks off. More telling of their state of mind than the real state of affairs in prevailing male/female relations.Hassan Godwinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7415178.post-91345260300225733702011-02-27T13:38:40.524-05:002011-02-27T13:38:40.524-05:00I enjoyed the show, right up until the end of the ...I enjoyed the show, right up until the end of the 2nd season and the "Razor" movie, which I regarded as the high point. Season 3 was total crap (albeit with some decent action in the finale), and tainted my opinion of the show as a whole, sadly. <br /><br />As with a lot of shows, particulary sci-fi, fan support tends to be so fierce as to be blind, and even when a show jumps the shark, or in BSG 2.0's case, goes off the rails, most fans tend to be in denial about the true state of quality, even when it's obviously taken a huge nose-dive, as was the case with BSG season 3.Hellbillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01920776278213732305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7415178.post-37199963817209862172011-02-27T10:05:58.997-05:002011-02-27T10:05:58.997-05:00Edward James Olmos and Mary McDonnell offered so m...Edward James Olmos and Mary McDonnell offered so much calm and gravitas to the show, elevating Sci-Fi Channel schlock to something more meaningful. Their chemistry was effortless and romantic, but also refreshingly platonic. Ironic.the kevin scurry bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01304072308438980283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7415178.post-38863627161611629892011-02-27T02:13:25.269-05:002011-02-27T02:13:25.269-05:00It's about time someone called it on it's ...It's about time someone called it on it's BS. I've had way too many discussions with people that simply loved it like they'd been brainwashed. Maybe it's because I had a much fonder memory of the original or if could have been that it felt like the programing exec. at the network seemed to be pushing the show like a personal project, but I detested it from the first day and nothing ever won me back. I don't hold it against you for actually finding things to like about the show, frankly if I'd watched as much of it as you I'd probably try to find something redeeming just to avoid the feeling of wasting my time. In fact, if I did find one good thing about this it was the soundless space scenes that reminded me of the show Firefly.<br /><br />After reading your review, the only thing I could have wished for more, besides the show to die in a fire, would be be for you to have been watching it live so that there'd be at least one person whose opinion I respect that could have said these things to more people before it infected so many.PN04 (aka Omega Rei)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13282998784115942712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7415178.post-8878903378886923002011-02-27T02:10:31.278-05:002011-02-27T02:10:31.278-05:00Perfect, dude. I totally agree that Roslin is the ...Perfect, dude. I totally agree that Roslin is the most compelling character. And Starbuck... always seemed to me like a big bag of somebody's idea of wish fulfillment. I don't know, Sackhoff does her all with it, and maybe in real life there are women who simultaneously look like her, drink like her, and fight like her, but I've sure as hell never met them. <br /><br />As I'm reading your review I'm trying to figure out why I even want to rush to the defense of the show, because I spent a good chunk of the series feeling exactly as exasperated with it as you did. I think it's because I ended up enjoying some of the plotlines in season four, and the finale most of all, just by virtue of its sheer... sorry, almost got into spoiler land. Looking forward to your eventual review of the rest of the series.Kevie Metalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07908746632909933648noreply@blogger.com